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April 15, 2008



Spot on with the comparison of the two. Reading through these MSCL quotes makes me wonder why I don't own it on DVD yet. The show was one of the most accurate, universal portrayals of high school I've ever seen. What I loved about Angela was that she was so realistic character in her, well, un-specialness. There was nothing flashy about her; she wasn't a star student or the popular girl. She was just a kid dealing with the typical bullshit of high school and trying to figure it out, stumbling upon realizations with the same naive surprise that most kids do. There was none of the annoying, flowery syntax and excessive verbiage of the Dawson's Creek gang; Angela used "like" as much as I did (and, um, still do).

Also? I still cry every time I watch the scene where Rayanne and Angela perform the scene from Our Town.

PS I would STILL make out with Jordan Catalano in the high school boiler room if the opportunity arose.


i loooved juno, though i definitely agree with your comments on her being annoying, and that the movie itself is overrated and underrated at the same time. "honest to blog" is one of the most obnoxious phrases to have ever been written down, and spoken. and then played in theaters across the country. i never thought this movie would be the stuff of oscars, yet it won best original screenplay. it's given hope to many aspiring screenwriters, cause if that movie won then i could certainly write something oscar worthy.

Miss Lisa

It's like "30-Something" for teenagers ("Teen-something"). I used to watch for the Jordan Catalano scenes only. And I'm sorry Rayanne, but you look 30. I wish the show had been about Ricky. It needed a lead with some spark. I know I blaspheme. Lindsay and all her cohorts in "Freaks and Geeks" did it for me.

Gayest Neil

So if you had to chart an evolutionary time line of the introverted geek-girl (but ahead of her peers) character, where would you place Janice from "Head of the Class?"


My So-Called Life is hands down the ONLY accurate depiction of teenage life I've ever seen. It was the only thing I could watch with my mother and not fight about. I'd point to the screen and say "This really happens!" Watching it I didn't need to explain why I felt some way or how I did anything; it was all up there to see, played out by Claire Danes and Jared Leto. Letting that show goes was one of the worst things network tv could have done. It dumbed down everything for teens and tweens and now we're stuck with The Hills and Super Sweet 16. BRING BACK SMART TELEVISION FOR YOUNG PEOPLE!!!


You are a generous and beautiful person.


At the time it was actually on TV, I thought MSCL was kind of annoying, but yet it showed these flashes of brilliance that sucked me right in, and it seemed like someone actually LISTENED to what goes on when you're that age and committed it to paper. And I really WANT to like Juno, but as the buzz and hype have overtaken them, it just seems like Cody and Page have bought their own bullshit and begun to believe that they, like, invented the entire film medium about girls, or something. Just ONCE I would like to hear one of these Hollywood "it" people respond to just ONE of the inane interviewers with "Jesus, it's just a MOVIE, it's not curing cancer for Chrissake!"

love, J-Mo :)


Just reading those made me tear up at work a little bit. Angela was so real. I also loved when she said something about the yearbook being a joke because if you made a book about what high school was really about it would be a REALLY upsetting book.


I think the best thing about Angela's musings is that they still hold true in my life today. As a teenager, it's like she was speaking my words, but I don't look back and think, "How trivial." I think, "Goddamn, Sundays are the most depressing day ever. And why do I imagine my boss having sex when that's completely gross?" I mean, as teenagers, we were thinking in intellectual ways just on a smaller scale. MSCL isn't condescending, and in a lot of ways, Diablo Cody's attempt to speak "teen" was. But that's why I enjoyed Juno, and don't pretend to see it as a realistic portrayal...of anything.

Also, why didn't you come see Jordan Catalano/Jared Leto at the Angelika and help ask the important questions? (Namely, where IS Tino?)


It's almost like Angela's little sister became Juno, huh?


#1 I still love Jordan Catalano. He is everything a highschool crush was.

Sometimes I remember this scene in MSCL where Rayanne get's mad at her mom because she only makes appetizers for dinner and doesn't cook a real meal. Now I'm almost 30 and wonder if I'll end up like her mom when I'm eating my eggrolls and mini samosas for dinner.


I think there comes a time when you realize that Brian is so amazing and Jordan is so sucky, and that is the time that you also have no more sympathy for the whiny little fuckers in The Breakfast Club.

Angela Chase is great, though, always and forever.


Don't forget: "Sometimes it seems like we're all living in some kind of prison. And the crime is how much we hate ourselves. It's good to get really dressed up once in a while. And admit the truth: that when you really look closely? People are so strange and so complicated that they're actually... beautiful. Possibly even me."

Love MSCL. May my mildly misguided crush on Brian Krakow live on (in memory alone)!!


I love me some Claire Danes (the girl really knows how to pause) and I really enjoyed the show when it was on, but watching the clip made me focus on how often the word "like" was said on that show. I bet if you, like, counted the number of times "like" was said, it would be, like, in the thousands. :)


The stupid throwaway MSCL reference in Juno was maybe the moment that pissed me off the most about that movie. "Hey, let's throw in a character named Tino who we never see, who's in a band, and people that grew up watching and loving that show will get it and know we're super cool and referential like that." Shut up.


MSCL will always make me cry a little. It was gone way too soon. I loved how the characters actually wore the same clothes more than once...


Also, even though I was SO an Angela Chase, I was Rayanne for Halloween once :)

silky jumbo

it's funny that you would do this comparison. rayanne reminded me of a certain friend in high school and juno reminded me of the same girl.


Excellent comparison/analogy, Rich!

I <3 MSCL.
It's fictional but it's so personal.


rayanne could kick juno's ass.

I had a crush on brian krakow too!

and that whole end scene from the zit episode, where she says that about beauty and she's crying and her sister and mother are in the fashion show- it makes me cry just remembering it. best show ever.


Love, love, love Angela!

I rented Juno today. After reading your post back when it was still in theaters, I didn't bother seeing it, but I am anxious, if nothing else to see what all the hype was about.


I actually never bought into the My So Called Life phenomenon. Mostly because it felt as though they were contractually obligated to say "like" in every line of dialogue. It drove me insane.

On the other hand, I liked Juno. I managed to see it at a film festival prior to its release, so I guess my viewing wasn't clouded by hype or backlash.


How am I? How am I?!

Kills me.

Thanks, mon frere. You made my night. (Is that kinda sad?)

Now excuse me while I go listen to Buffalo Tom.


I met Wilson Cruz after his starring turn on Broadway in RENT (which was just a happy coincidence, we didn't know he was in it when we bought the tickets). I got his autograph and my picture taken with him and it was all I could do to not squeal, "Riiiiccckkkkyyyy!". I loved My So-Called Life. Sigh.
House of Jules

Wow. I haven't thought specifically about this show for a while, but some of these quotes (particularly the ones about chewing and being yourself being "like, enough") come to me on a regular basis.

The end of this show was as heartbreaking as the end of Sassy. Thanks for the memories. And yes, I'm still in love with Steven Malkmus.

Thanks also for pointing out Juno as the extension of DC's ego. So, so true.

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